The CDU is the election winner in North Rhine-Westphalia, but needs a new coalition partner. Who can rule in Düsseldorf for the next few years? Hendrik Wüst or Thomas Kuchaty? And what role does federal politics play in the NRW elections? Anne Will discusses this on Sunday evening.

NRW has voted – but what’s next in Düsseldorf?

Anne Will will discuss these questions with these guests on Sunday evening:

And with that, the show ends. Thank you for reading along here.

10:56 p.m .: Lars Klingbeil closes the program with the words: “The agreed socio-political points of the traffic light are not shaken.”

10:54 p.m .: “Our prosperity depends on exports,” interjects Jens Spahn. The CDU politician is pleased that the fundamental debate is therefore very helpful.

10:53 p.m .: Now Mariam Lau can again. “Our prosperity model won’t last,” predicts the journalist. “It’s about changing the understanding,” says Lang.

10:52 p.m .: Lars Klingbeil says that growth projects are clearly laid out in the coalition agreement. “And that mustn’t fall down behind.”

10:49 p.m .: Anne Will asks Ricarda Lang who should pay for all the plans. “Is there a record level of debt and the FDP just doesn’t want to admit it yet?” Will asks.

“Yes, it will all cost money,” says Lang. But: You have a coalition agreement and you stick to it. However, the changed circumstances must also be taken into account. “I think the debt brake is right,” says Dürr. “I’m the only one around here.”

10:47 p.m .: Christian Dürr praises himself and the traffic light. The tax policy measures and the supply policy in the financial sector show that the right answers have already been found.

10:45 p.m .: “I haven’t heard anything from the Chancellor on this topic,” says Spahn. Anne Will steps in and brings back her theme to the show. “In fact, that was also an issue in the NRW election.” Expensive prices came first, then climate, energy and the war.

10:44 p.m .: Now Jens Spahn brings the topic of inflation out of the bag. It bounces back and forth quite happily here.

10:42 p.m.: We stick to the traffic light relief package. Anne Will asks Lars Klingbeil why the SPD didn’t immediately look at the pensioners. “The moment we see that it will be difficult for pensioners, we have to talk again in the coalition,” says Klingbeil. “To say there was nothing in the package is not true.”

10:39 p.m .: Now it’s about saving energy or the long-term strategy. Here, too, the traffic light already has the right ideas, says Ricarda Lang.

10:37 p.m .: “Here in Berlin, everyone uses public transport,” says Klingbeil when asked about the topic of lowering energy prices. Therefore, the 9-euro ticket is very accurate and effective. Well, is that true?

10:36 p.m .: The heating cost and gas bill would only come after the relief package had expired, criticized Jens Spahn. Instead, he advocates a reduction in energy taxes.

10:35 p.m .: By the way: We haven’t talked about the topic of the show for a long time….

10:33 p.m .: The relief package is by no means purely serving the individual clientele of the parties, says Lang. “Ultimately, it has to work for society as a whole,” says Lang. However, it is indeed the case that this cannot replace forward-looking social policy.

10:31 p.m .: Lang again defends her coalition partners. The traffic light relief package shows that one is very capable of acting. “Only one point” came from the Union in this regard.

10:30 p.m .: Jens Spahn sees a “hesitation and hesitation”. It is now a matter of following up the constant announcements with action.

10:27 p.m .: Now it’s about the alleged scandal in the defense committee. Dürr defends the decision that the spokesman for the FDP parliamentary group must or wants to resign. “We always end up together,” says Dürr. The way the committee acted was inappropriate.

10:25 p.m .: Christian Dürr intervenes. In the GroKo one would have argued publicly and then “nothing was decided”. When it came to arms deliveries, the Union ended up “like a bedside rug when it came to the traffic light application,” said Dürr.

10:23 p.m .: Jens Spahn does not want to accept Klingbeil’s excuses. “Of course, federal policy was made in NRW,” said the former Minister of Health. Spahn admits that he was also impressed by the traffic light coalition negotiations. “But we see disputes on many issues,” said Spahn. The only thing that everyone agrees on is cannabis legalization, Spahn said mockingly.

10:21 p.m .: Christian Dürr also does not want to say that the traffic light is damaged. Of course, there are different views, but many projects have been defined that now “stick together”. The dispute in the state election campaign would also be kept out of the federal government in the future.

10:19 p.m .: Ricarda Lang joins Klingbeil. According to the Green Party leader, the chancellor was not damaged. The election campaign was not carried into the coalition.

10:18 p.m .: The federal government does not just consist of a politician but of a team, says Klingbeil. And every politician is different and communicates differently. “If at the end of the war it is said that there was a week or two in which the Chancellor communicated too little, I’m fine with that,” said Klingbeil.

10:17 p.m .: The SPD leader defends his chancellor. The polls showed that he was well understood and that the Germans were behind him. “In the end there is a reasonable result, that’s Olaf Scholz’s policy,” said Klingbeil.

10:15 p.m .: Klingbeil is asked whether it was wrong to send Olaf Scholz to the election campaign. “Such thoughts are completely alien to me,” says Klingbeil. All candidates would have received the support of the SPD leadership in Saarland, Schleswig-Holstein and North Rhine-Westphalia.

10:13 p.m .: According to Lau, Scholz did not position himself clearly on the Ukraine question. Unlike the Greens and the Union. According to Lau, Robert Habeck and his communication skills are a particularly good example.

10:11 p.m .: Now Mariam Lau has her say. She is asked how she classifies the result. “It’s a reminder for the traffic lights and Olaf Scholz,” said the journalist. Scholz talked about respect during the election campaign, but is now acting arrogantly.

10:10 p.m .: Will wants to know whether participation in the government of the FDP always hurt. That’s not the case, Dürr replies.

10:08 p.m .: Christian Dürr is brought into the round. “This is a bitter electoral defeat for the FDP, and the mouse won’t bite a thread,” said Dürr. “It’s damn difficult when you’re a top candidate for the first time. It was difficult because the person wasn’t that well known,” says Dürr about Stamp, the top man in NRW.

10:07 p.m .: “One thing is crucial for us: We want to make the industrial nation a climate-neutral industrial nation,” says Lang. It is about forming a “government of the future”. Anyone who can do that is a partner for the Greens.

10:05 p.m .: Now Ricarda Lang speaks. The Greens leader is pleased that her party got the best result in history. Your party will now see who can best follow the path to a climate-neutral future.

10:04 p.m .: One is not “dependent” on the Greens, says Spahn. One is the strongest party and can now talk to all democrats.

10:03 p.m .: The result in the federal election was “hard” and “bitter”. But the result of the SPD in NRW is historically the worst, said Spahn. The SPD must also draw its own conclusions.

10:02 p.m .: Jens Spahn comes into the round. “First of all, this is a great evening for us,” said the CDU presidium member.

10:01 p.m .: The difference to the federal election is that the SPD recognizes that the CDU won the election, according to Klingbeil. That was not the case with Armin Laschet at the time.

10 p.m.: Klingbeil does not want to rule out that Thomas Kutschaty could not become prime minister. “The talks are also about content. That has not yet been decided today.”

10 p.m.: Lars Klingbeil is asked right at the beginning whether the proclaimed “social democratic decade” will be over in 2022. “Of course I would have preferred a different result,” said the SPD leader

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