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a Number of deputies of St. Petersburg has prepared two draft laws: on the indexation of pensions to working pensioners, and the return of former retirement age: women 55 years, men – with 60. Power idea is not supported. One of the authors of the projects, doctor of economic Sciences, Deputy of Zakopane St. Petersburg Oksana Dmitrieva told about the fate of these legislative initiatives, what and who is on the path to their implementation.

Oksana Genrikhovna, you will continue the struggle for the consideration of your initiatives? Or now that the country is gradually emerging from quarantine they are no longer so relevant?

– They are still very important for our country. Quarantine measures and other restrictions may soon end. But the economic crisis we are going out for a long time.

it is obvious that the pension reform conducted in the country, was incorrect. Raising the retirement age Russians do not correspond to the actual duration of life of our citizens and labor market.

the Pandemic is clearly shown. For the elderly, which, they say, still full of energy, there are not enough jobs. Changed the structure of the labour market, need not be an elderly saleswoman, and need a pizza delivery scooters, couriers, and other newfangled profession. Traditional forms of labor displaced by new, in-demand professionals who work in the online regime.

What do pretensioner that do not fit into these transformations, are not able to master digital technologies? How to live up to the new terms of retirement? After all, they often get “under the hand”, that is they reduce the first, sent to the free holiday or sick leave. They significantly lose in the financial provision.

– What budget will be required under your bill?

– this year, 100 billion rubles for the indexation of pensions to working pensioners. And about 280 billion on the return to the old retirement age. Next year for these purposes means, of course, need more. The amount, in General, a significant, but lifting for the Russian budget.

the fact that today the government anyway makes direct cash payments to certain population groups. In particular, lump-sum payments for families with children. The measures in General proper and necessary.

But, as we have seen, there is another category, which proved to be highly vulnerable. Pretensioner and working pensioners, whose income at the time of exit from the crisis decreased significantly. One of them kept the salary and how much is still a big question.

what’s the holdup? Why your bills have not reached the state Duma?

– To the initiative of the “left” in Federation��spacious Parliament, must be approved by our Legislature. Three times already we tried to include this issue for discussion in the agenda, but so far this is not possible. Will try again and again.

– it is Clear that if the legislative Assembly and will support your ideas, then in the state Duma they are unlikely to be happy.

– I Understand. But in this situation it is important public opinion. As his time was with the progressive income tax? I, still being the Deputy of the State Duma was introduced the bill for consideration of a DePuy corps starting in 2010-2011. Prepared various amendments, options. Projects were rejected.

But just yesterday, Vladimir Putin in his address stated that the country will introduce a progressive tax. Although not in the version that we were offered. Not passed, as they say, 10 years… Economically sound idea in society lived, forced her to return periodically. Water, as you know, wears away the stone.

it Seems that way. Recently a similar initiative in the indexation of pensions to working pensioners in the state Duma introduced a faction of the liberal democratic party.

– Yes. Although initially the liberal Democrats doubted the viability of this idea. However, her repeated and have already introduced myself. I will support any initiative, regardless of who or who will make our laws will be rewritten or corrected. Especially if they support the government and the President. Because the implementation of ideas demanded by the people, the Internet is abuzz with discussions and comments of experts.

Which of your two bills – the indexing or the return of the former retirement age – the moment you believe, after all, is more important?

– Think about lowering the retirement age to the pre-reform level. Today pretensioners the mechanism of early retirement. Like, in case of force majeure circumstances, they had the opportunity. But this mechanism is extremely complex and low-realized. All offices should be bypassed.

People close to retirement age should not only be unemployed but also to provide documentary evidence of this fact. And that he was not able to find a new job. In a crisis, when the country’s growing unemployment!

Current rule set out by the government during a pandemic, is that the employer is not profitable to dismiss this category – otherwise he will be deprived of state benefits, loans on salaries. And if people leave on their own, as mostly happens, he will not be able to obtain unemployment benefits. It is a vicious circle, one will definitely suffer.

out side: if in the next two crisis years, the decision on the return of the old pension terms, the circle is broken. Who modified to 55 and 60 years, quietly retire in a planned, that is to say, fine. If it will remain working place, he will be able to continue to work in the enterprise. If not saved – will receive a pension. And there will be queues at the labour exchanges, bureaucratic red tape and paperwork.