Valery Aleksandrovich, and when, in your opinion, Russia will end the epidemic COVID-19?
Valery Chereshnev: How long was epidemic in China? From December to April and 4.5 months. We started in March. Hence, we can assume, will end in mid-July. Assuming that it will be possible to localize the sources of infection, as in China.
what is happening? Cars go, people go – many communicate in parks and gardens. What we’re doing! All because it is already known about asymptomatic cases, flow COVID-19. This means that people might not guess that they are vectors. But many have elderly relatives. People with weakened immune systems are especially vulnerable to infection.
shake the body!
So, it’s time to train the immune system. Maybe there is a known you the Express method?
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Valery Chereshnev: there is no Such method. To quickly raise the level of immune protection will fail.
what is immunity? It’s the body’s ability to defend against all foreign and dangerous substances and cells. I will say this: this is a permanent process, the constant creation of a healthy lifestyle. Only the way of life we prepare for a meeting with any pathogen.
a Normal diet, exercising on the principle of necessary and sufficient, fresh air, restful sleep, – the head physician, as little stress as possible. And urgent addition to this list – a minimum of contacts. You follow these rules – and the grateful response of the immune system will not keep itself waiting.
But to rely on the magical effects of adaptogens or salutary dose of immunomodulator is not worth it.
Valery Chereshnev: Immunomodulators – immunomodulators is a compromised immune system. They are appointed on the basis made in a lab immunogram (a comprehensive analysis of the immune system).
And if the doctor has identified the presence of disorders of the immune system, then the use of immunomodulators is warranted. But if such a diagnosis is not, then the question arises: why to take them? As vitamins? Why overexcite the immune system that is so sensitive and responds to all pollution entering the body.
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we Must remember: the reaction of overstimulation necessarily be followed by a reaction of exhaustion. A depletion – this is the secondary immunodeficiency: if at this time the body will work something provocative, the immune system can not cope with the protection and people get sick. Rather than suffer the skiers after a hard race? Colds, flu, acute respiratory infections. Because the immune system, powerfully mobilized at the time of the competition, then reduced their function. Experienced coaches and athletes know: after a serious competition – no drafts, no additional stress.
Lemons, BCG, hunger
are there any products that strengthen the immune system? Lemons now actively snapping up, ginger rose…
Valery Chereshnev: It’s all adaptogens: ginseng, Pantocrinum, ginger – stimulants of the immune system. But it is important to understand this: if you take them on a regular basis and in normal doses, you will support a well-functioning immune system.
And if you do this shock in the short betweenducks time and in high doses, it again will achieve what I have already said excitation – depletion, splash, explosion – extinction. Of course, this is a consequence of our domestic delusions and expectations of a miracle.
And suddenly a miraculous power of hunger, sex or alcohol?
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Valery Chereshnev: Hunger, Yes, but therapeutic. If a person has a stomach ulcer, then this “miracle” can be unfortunate consequences, such as aggravation of ulcers.
Sex – why not? This is one of the varieties of relieving psychological stress. At a certain age a person has a need: it is a powerful discharge, so that the immune system is an absolute benefit. But from the strong alcohol solid damage because it weakens the immune system and can contribute to deterioration of health.
There is a theory that BCG vaccination gives immunity against COVID-19. What do you think?
Valery Chereshnev: the BCG (from the French of Bacillus Calmette-Guérin – Bacillus Calmet-guérin) is a potent jolt to the body. The vaccine against tuberculosis, invented in France over 100 years ago, a powerful irritant of the whole immune system. I therefore share the view that BCG, protecting the body from bacterial and viral infections, strengthens the immune system as a whole.
what is the main difficulty of the struggle with the new coronavirus?
Valery Chereshnev: Uncontrolled use of antibiotics has led to bacteria and viruses to be immune to it.
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In the large intestine of man, more than 10 thousand bacteria and more than 10 thousand viruses. This so-called our microbiome, the weight of which reaches a half to two pounds. So here is the microbiome important for a number of processes, including immune. The deviation of its composition from a qualitative and quantitative norms leads to the development of various pathological conditions.
Antibiotics kill bacteria, and viruses that lurk in the cells of the intestinal epithelium that are inaccessible to antibiotics. And it is the ratio of bacteria less viruses and more. In modern medicine, however, does not change the paradigm of treatment and continues the era of antibiotics.
of Course, antibiotics are needed, however, they kill not only pathogenic bacteria, but saprophytic, that is needed by the body. So we say: the threat of viruses will increase, until we create a reliable means against viruses. This applies to human viruses. And the reservoir of coronavirus, according to modern ideas, are bats.
If the virus mutates, whether it makes sense in the vaccine, over which now operate worldwide?
Valery Chereshnev: of Course the vaccine is needed. The vaccine is prevention, this product for the activation of acquired immunity.
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If the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, as well as other infection that spreads by droplets will appear, like the flu, once in three or four years, so we need a vaccine to reconfigure the immune system against the virus. Vaccine COVID-19 will help to prevent the disease is to prepare the body for the meeting with a strong virulent virus. But the vaccine will at best be created through the year.
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But you seem to have come close to solving this issue?
Valery Chereshnev: We have 10 years to study non-hazardous to human virus “Sendai”, actively stimulating the immune system. This interfering or antagonistic virus against influenza viruses.
Employees of the Military medical Academy, the innovative enterprise “Center for advanced radiation medical and biological technologies” (St.-Petersburg) and our Institute of immunology and physiology Ural branch RAS (Ekaterinburg) was jointly established in experiment that there is a phenomenon of antagonistic interactions (interference) pathogens and non-pathogenic virus, “Sendai”.
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This is the rationale for the use of “protective” viruses for the treatment of highly pathogenic viral infections, including, in our opinion, the coronavirus. We appealed to the MoH to support and accelerate approval of these studies with coronavirus infection.
Now the situation is in General very difficult: the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 – the enemy is dangerous, the death rate from COVID-19 is on the rise. Especially vulnerable are the elderly and patients with chronic diseases – hypertension, atherosclerosis, diabetes diabet, Oncology. But we can control this enemy and to limit its promotion across the country. The main thing now – to stop the spread of infection, so we have to be separated, to be isolated, so that later, after the victory over the virus, again to unite.
Valery Chereshnev. Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences. The President of the Russian scientific society of immunologists. Scientific Director of the Institute of immunology and physiology, Ural branch, Russian Academy of Sciences.
a specialist in the field of fundamental medicine and immunology, has created a new scientific direction – immunophysiology and immunopathophysiology.
Studies the ecology and immunity, immune mechanisms of inflammation, stress, cardiovascular disease, tumors, AIDS, radiation and mechanical losses.
the Author and co-author of over 800 scientific papers.
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